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Cabinet makers share their opinions and experiences with the major software packages and vendors. September 26, 2000

Question
I am in the process of reviewing the different cabinet design and production softwares available. The products I have been considering are Cabinet Solutions, Cabnetware, Cabinet Pro, CabinetVision and KCDw.

Many of you have used one or more of these products and most likely have an opinion about them. I have not been able to find any articles that review these products and give comparisons. I have had reps demonstrate them and they all seem like good products. I am sure some do certain things better than others. It would be great to get some feedback from the real world.

Parasyte full episodes english. Many of these products have changed considerably with introductions of newer operating systems; I would like to keep the feedback limited to the newer versions.

Forum Responses
I have tried a few and can offer my thoughts.

I started by purchasing Cabinet Solutions, which I found to be a great little program for the small shop, considering the cost; it was very easy to set up and just as easy to run, the reports were adequate and in order.

The only drawbacks I saw were in the perspective views. I was not able to show mouldings or wood textures on my drawings, nor was I able to create a radius cabinet.

Next I tried Quisine, which I found to be very limited. Since it lacks the power to really customize each cabinet (they do not have a cabinet editor in the program), the graphics looked somewhat cheesy to me. In fact, I had two customers comment on it. As far as the reports were concerned, they seem to be complete and well thought out.

Next I went to Kitchen Builder by CabinetVision. It too is a great little program that is similar to Cabinet Solutions but with much more power and better graphics, however, the reports do seem to need a little help. Still and all, I would rate this program above all those previously mentioned.

I am presently using CabinetVision 'Solid Manufacturing,' which I find to be the best. The only problem is that the Solid line of Cabinet Vision is somewhat pricy and has a rather steep learning curve, but the power you get for what you pay is well worth it. I have been able to create just about anything my customers have asked me to with this program.

I do some high-end custom homes in both frameless and traditional face frame, and I do commercial work which also presents some tricky situations, and have been able to run them all through this program.

I've got Solid Manufacturing also, although I started with CV's 'Solid Lite' program - kinda middle-of-the-road priced. I'd recommend it to anyone starting out. It pretty much does everything you need, and it's easy to step up to more bells and whistles if you want. Then it'll do everything you want.

The more a program does and/or the more you want it to do, the steeper the learning curve. Count on a steep curve unless you get a less expensive program that doesn't do much.

I would strongly suggest that you have details about what YOU build and have the person doing the demo perform tasks as they relate to YOUR business. Have them show you how the setup will go, how the program works, and of course how you get the cabinets from a napkin or post-it note to client renderings, assembly sheets, cutlists, etc.

Too many times a prospective software buyer gets caught up in the glitzy graphics. Any one of the packages will give you decent graphics, but you’re more interested in the nuts and bolts of the thing: will you get accurate info out of it; how long does the design process take; stuff like that.

Each of these packages has its strengths and weaknesses, that’s why I suggest you have details about what you do specifically. If you build boxes and the only difference between the boxes is the length, a 500-buck package may well be all you need. If you do all kinds of goofy curved reception areas, then you may well need to spend 8 to 10 grand on a package that will do what you need it to do.

Another thing to consider is where you might be in the future with this thing, i.e., do you envision adding CNC equipment? Perhaps not tomorrow but what about next year, or three years from now? If that’s something that could possibly be in the future, a 500-dollar package is probably not going to get you there. You can take the cheaper route now, or you can go ahead and spend the bucks with the future in mind. If you opt for the cheaper route keep in mind that most likely when you do get that new router or P2P you’re going to have to learn a new design software as well as the software related to your new equipment, and if/when you do make this leap, the less new stuff thrown into the mix the better, as far as I’m concerned. When you make the leap to automated equipment, you’re going to have your hands full already without having the added burden of learning a new design software.
Brian Personett, technical advisor

From the original questioner:
Your feedback is great; the thing that I appreciate is that everyone who replies can present their particular working environment, shop size and the type of work they do, giving a wider variety of circumstances and uses, which is exactly what I am looking for. I realize not everyone has the same needs as me. I appreciate the different points of view and situations. The more the merrier.

One positive aspect of CabinetVision was the upgradability factor; you can start with Cabinet Builder and work up to the Solid line. You can essentialy trade your way up without spending thousands for new programs. This was very attractive to me.

I have a two-man shop and we build high-end kitchens, paneled libraries, great rooms, entry ways, etc.

We have used Quisine with very little luck, you could not give me that program for free. Next we used Cabinet Solutions. This is a low-cost program, and for the money it's well worth it. The cutlists and assembly sheets are accurate. It does not show mouldings, but a few pencil lines took care of that. Then we looked at Cabnetware and CabinetVision; two good programs, and each have their strong and weak points.

I do not like talking to the salesmen of those companies because all they do is put each other's products down. We ended up with Cabnetware. We make a lot of wall panels and we also do interior remodeling. Floor and mechanical plans were more to my liking with Cabnetware. (I hope in the next year to get into CNC.)

The jump from a calculator to a software program is a big one, but I was a little disappointed in the differance between the $2,000 programs and the $7,000 programs. The $2,000 ones were about 75 percent there, so one must ask is $5,000 worth the additional 25 percent?!

We did very well on the last job, so I treated myself to Cabnetware.
I feel that the software companies still have a way to go on perfecting the product.

Bottom line: Any software product that produces accurate cut lists and assembly sheets is worth having.

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